a common space for harmonic overtones
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long time since I didn't post... I feel some free time to think about it now, so let's do it !
To answer you Dan :
- I don't know either about the differences about Mongolian and Tuvan throat singing, I think I heard someday that Tuvan's style sygyt use to press the throat upper than his equivalent in Mongolian's style, isegere xöömij.
- I had a trainer, Johanni Curtet, and did a stage during one week with Tserendavaa in Mongolia. Nowadays, I moved from Brittany where Johanni gives his courses. However, I stopped singing while I was still in Brittany. He recomanded me to see voice's specialist to do a diagnosis. I did, my vocal drones were fine. So I saw a specialist who re-educate the way you speak and so on. He told me that it was muscular tenses. But I didn't continue to be treated by him, cause I moved... Since, I haven't see any doctor that for. Just a man who treat physical tenses, posture issues with manipulations.
Perhaps this is a uniquely personal "condition"... do you have similar issues elsewhere in your body or during other activities?
N.B. : I also play transverse flute and jew' harp and wondered if there weren't any link with those tenses...
Actually, I also have tenses while doing those activities.
Consequently, I began this year to care about being tired while playing instrument or sing, making simple exercises to warm me up, making stretching, observing the way I take my breath, the way I use my muscles to push the air ( in my neck and in my back essentially), the way I press my throat, the way I put my tongue (I can continue the list but I think you understood the main idea ;) ). I recovered my xargira and the pressed tone. I tried a few time to make isegere xöömij with the same pressed voice than before, and it's almost there but I can't sing a long time.
To sum up : I think I'm on the good way to fully recover my abilities. I'll now try something more : swimming !
If you experience muscle fatigue when trying to "hold still" your vocal musculature and have to stop singing because of it or just can't get the sound anymore after singing a few minutes, try yawning with your lips shut. It's a little trick Mongolian throat singer Sundui says helps "reset" your vocal tract and diaphragm. I do it occasionally.
A little advice: moderate to high levels of chlorine in public pools wreak havoc with your breathing. Do avoid throat singing IN the pool. I tried once and the chlorine irritated my throat so that I couldn't sing without pain for several days.
Thank you, I didn't know the little yawning tip !
It's impressive... I didn't know either that chlorine could do that ! I'll be careful in the pool and I'll keep in mind : "just swim, just swim, just swim, ... " It'll be difficult but I think I can do it :)
Just to had a fact : I did sing really often. Sometimes, several hours a day without a lot of breaking... May I say : " I was young, naive and thought I was indestructible " :)
Have a good day and thanks again !
Oh, I forgot about the yawning-trick! I'll use that one more often now, I'll see how much it helps. Also, I should do a more structured warming up.
I actually don't "warm up", I just have a go at it when I practice... No structure, most of the time I don't even sing a song. I'm way to spontaneous to structure or plan anything, I make decisions rashly and in the moment. Whenever I have a few minutes, I practice. I hardly ever have more than 5 or 10 minutes to sing, so warm-ups are really all I do, in a way. On rare occasions I spend 20 minutes and sing every song I know how to sing, unless it doesn't sound right, then I give up and do something else. Today, I spent 2 minutes doing Kargyraa, but it didn't sound right, more like a growly gargle, so I gave up and made a beat-skeleton on my step sequencer, played with synth patches, and before I got anything worth showing together, my free time was already up. The whole thing took less than 60 minutes.
Even being that short on time, I'm not dissatisfied. It's a great hobby doing what I do, even if I expect to never perform or record a CD.